Tuesday, November 25, 2008

Two Quotes -Nov 25

Analyze two transcendental quotes and CONNECT them to a basic premise (from notes). Happy Turkey Day!

17 comments:

Unknown said...

"Speak what you think now in hard woods, and to-morrow speak what to-morrow thinks in hard words again, though it contradict everything you said today.-" I think this quote is self realization. I think its self realization because itss showing that youre one with the world. I also think its self realization because even if you feel one way today and speak srongly on its behalf, its not to say that tommorow you can't have a different oppinion. You can change your mind without being hypocritical.

"A man should learn to detect and watch that gleam of light which flashes across his mind from within, more than the lustre of the firmanent of bards and sages. Yet he dimisses without notice his thought, becasue it is his. In every work of genius we recognizze our own rejected thoughts: they come back to us with a certain alienated majesty." I think this quote resembles all knowledge begins with self knowledge. I think this because it talks about being a genius and before you can be a genius, you have to have self knowledge. I think this quote also shows the idea of man gaining all truth and knowledge by devine intellect.
*Btw, i really have no clue what these mean so if I'm really far off, don't judge me! HAPPY TURKEY! Gobble gobble! And say thanks to everyone you love and appreciate:)

Unknown said...

"Unjust laws exist: shall we be content to obey them, or shall we endeavor to amend them, and oby them unil we have succeeded, or shall we transgress them at once?"
I think this quote is all knowledge begins with self-knowledge. This is because you must realize why you are following the laws or not. It says that if we obey the laws then we have succeeded. Obviously, you must know little bit about yourself to know what laws to obey.

"The mass men lead lives of quiet desperation. What is called resignation is confirmed desperation."
Self- realization.
Self- realization because thehy must who they are in the "wuiet desperation". When a person resigns they are now considered to have desperation. One must realize this in order to get to the point of desperation or not.

Also I agree with what Christie said, Do not judge what I wrote, i'm probably not right.

Unknown said...

"I heartily accept the motto,- 'That government is best which governs least;' and I should like to see it acted up to more rapidly and systematically...'That government is best which governs not at all.'" I think this quote is all knowledge begins with self-knowledge because it says that the government should not tell you what to do, but you should tell yourself. People should be able to govern themselves using their own knowledge because they are inherently good.

"The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation. What is called resignation is confirmed desperation." I think this quote is self-realization. I think it is self-realization because it says if you resign your own thoughts to someone else, you are desperate. You should be a unique individual and have your own thoughts while still being ine with the "mass if men".

Unknown said...

"Society never advances. It recedes as fast on one side..."
I think this is all knowlede begins with self-knowledge becasue they are discovering society and how it works. You must realize what is going on around you before you can critisize ot or try to make it better. It also says that society changes and you have to understant that things cannot always be the same.

"The government is best which governs least; and i should like to see acted up to more rapidly and systematically"

I think this quote is individual is the spiritual center of the universe. They don't want anyone running their lives but themselves. Since they believe God is within them then they should be influenced by God. They think the government controls life too much and there is too much influence. Because transcendentalism believes in being able to survive without anything but God then the government shouldn't be able to control them.

Happy Thanksgiving!!!

Anonymous said...

"I think that we should be men first, and subjects afterward"
i think this quote is all knowledge begins with self knowledge. Because it is saying that you should be your own person and your should form your own thoughts,etc. And not just push your own ideas in favor of being like everyone else. Also i think that this ties in with the idea that people have good instincts, so we should act on our basic instincts first.

"These are the voices which we hear in solitude, but they grow faint and inaudible as we enter into the world."
This quote is also all knowledge begins with self knowledge. Because of the idea that the individual has the answers inside of him/her. And only when we come in contact with society do we become corrupted. That when alone the individual has divine intuition but that becomes corrupted and we are unable to touch into it when are corrupted by society.

Anonymous said...

Amanda Calvin
"Unjust laws exist: shall we be content to obey them, or shall we endeavor to amend them, and oby them unil we have succeeded, or shall we transgress them at once?"
I think this quote is all knowledge begins with self-knowledge.I think this because you have to know yourself well to be sure what laws you believe in and which laws you don't. The ones you do not believe in you will transcend the ones you do believe ing you will obey.

"I think that we should be men first, and subjects afterward"
i think this quote is all knowledge begins with self knowledge. I think this because it is saying that men should be themselves first, above all else, then fallow others afterwards if at all.

Audrey said...

"Society never advances. It recedes as fast on one side as it gains on the other."
I think this quote is all knowledge begins with self knowledge. In this quote they are saying that society doesn't go anywhere. That it is up to your own knowledge that makes society change. Your own individual idea’s is what makes our society.

"I think that we should be men first, and subjects afterward...The only obligation which i have right to assume is to do at anytime what i think right."
I think this is self realization. In this quote he is saying that they should be men and not just fit into the crowd. He said that he has the right to do the right thing even if that means going against what everyone else believes.

Anonymous said...

"The mass men lead lives of quiet desperation. What is called resignation is confirmed desperation."
I think this quote is all knowledge begins with self knowledge because if everyone knew the same thing and their weren't new things to learn, everybody lives the same life. There is no seperation from one person to the next as far as being unique, everybody would go on like robots.

"The government is best which governs least; and i should like to see acted up to more rapidly and systematically"
I think this quote is individual is the spiritual center of the universe. People are able to govern themselves without the help of a more powerful force.

Anonymous said...

"I heartily accept the motto-"that government is best which governs least; and I should like to see it acted up to more rapidly and systematically...."That government is best which governs not at all."
This relates to that all knowledge begins with self knowledge. You know what is right and the government should not tell you you are wrong. They should let you do what you think is right.

"I went to the woods because i wished to live deliberately, to front only the essential facts of life and see if i could not learn what it had to teach, and not, when I came to die, discover that I had not lived" This relates to the individual being the spiritual center of universe. You can only experience yourself by being alone and only by knowing yourself can you truly know god.

Anonymous said...

Sorry, fennec was me.

Unknown said...

"I heartily accept the motto,- "That government is best which governs least;" and I should like to see it acted up to more rapidly and systematically... "That government is best which governs not at all;"
I think this quote mostly relates to all knowledge begins with self knowledge. This quote is saying that people have the natural goodness to do the right thing without a government. It is saying that since people can do the right thing if they only listened to themselves. There would be no need for a government if everyone did what they though was the right thing to do.

"I think that we should be men first, and subjects afterward... the only obligation which I have the right to assume is to do at anytime what I think right."
I think this quote also has to do with all knowledge begins with self knowledge. It is saying that because God is inside every one of us, we have the knowledge to do the moral thing. If we always to what we think is right, it will always be the right thing since people are born naturally good. This quote is also saying that you should listen to your own ideas first and not let society effect you.

Emily G said...

"Society is a wave. The wave moves onward, but the water of which it is composed does not... The persons who make up a nation to-day, next year die, and their experience does with them."
I think this quote realates to Self realization. It points out that each individual can be one with the world, but does not individually affect it as a large group would. In a way, the quote almost contradicts the concept of the individual being one with the world because it says that an individual's experiences die with them, they aren't carried on for future generations.

"I see young men, my townsmen, whose misfortune it is to have inherited farm houses, barns, cattle, and farming tools... Better if they had been born in the open pasture and suckled by a wolf, that they might have seen with clearer eyes what field they were called to labor in...."
I think this quote relates to the premesis that nature is symbolic. It is saying that had humans grown up in nature, uncorrupted by humans and society, they would've learned much more about themselves and how they fit in to the world. Nature would've made them wiser through its signs and mysteries.

Anonymous said...

Society is a wave. The wave moves onward, but the water of which it is composed does not."
I think this quote is self realization. This is because we are each a particle we do not always move with the society. For example, technology will keep advancing and there is nothing that we can do about it. We will go along with the new advancments.


"I think that we should be men first, and subjects afterward."
I think this quote comes from the premise of self realization. This is becausewe can realize that we are individuals. We can act how we want to be and then take the consequences.

Taylor said...

"To be great is to be misunderstood."

This quote is about self-realization and is basically saying that the world should desire individuality. Being different is a great thing! If people weren't different than cultural advancements could be made. You are a great person, if society does not understand your beliefs and judgments.

"The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation. What is called resignation is confimrmed desperation."

First off, this is my favorite quote! I believe that this quote is self realization as well. This quote also relates to individuality; Being different is a great thing! If society does not thrive to be individual, then no cultural advancements can be made.

Unknown said...

"Society is a wave. The wave moves onward, but the water of which it is composed does not... The persons who make up a nation to-day, next year die, and their experience does with them."

I think this quote comes from the premise of "nature is symbolic". I think this because this quote is using water and the waves to symbolize society. This quote talks about how society will always keep moving on no matter what but where the society originated can and never will change. The roots of everyone will always be the same. In the second part of the quote it highlights the transcendentalists ideas that everyone should grow to be their own person not based on society. It says that everyone lives their own lives by themselves and when they die their expierences will die with them not effecting society as a large whole (since everyone grows up to be their own person).

"I think that we should be men first, and subjects afterward... the only obligation which I have the right to assume is to do at anytime what I think right."

I think that this quote originates off of the premise "individual is the spiritual center of the universe". I believe that this is because this quote is talking about how the good in man lies within ones self. It's saying that people should live as their own man first then subjects to society after since God and the right answers always lie winthin you. The second part of the quote is saying that the only thing one is obliged or should do is listen to yourself and none others around you. The individual better originates with better morals and ideas according to this quote and transcendentalists in general.

Unknown said...

"Society never advances. It recedes as fast on one side as it gains on the otehr. It undergoes continual changes; it is barbarous, it is civilized, it is christianized, it is rich, it is scientific; but this change is not amelioration. For every thing that is given, something is taken." - I think this quote is all knowledge begins with self knowledge because it is the realization of how society truly works. THis wuote is saying that society is constantly changing, but it never moves forward. As knew knowledge in society is gained, on the otehr side old knowledge is being pushed aside. For every thing that is knew in society and old theory is taken away and diminished. Nobody realizes this until they are told and find it in themselves.

"Unjust laws exist: shall we be content to obey them or shall we endeavor to amend them, and obey them until we have succeeded, or shall we transgress them at once?" - I think this quote is also all knowledge begins with self knowledge because everyone knows what they want to believe and what they dont want to believe. Only you know your limits and what you can and can't obey. No one else can tell you what you can believe. To stay true to yourself, you must know in your soul what you are to follow.

I hope everyone had a good Thanksgiving! See everyone tomorrow

Unknown said...

"Unjust laws exist: shall we be content to obey them, or shall we endeavor to amend them, and obey them until we have succeeded, or shall we transgress them at once?" This quote is all knowledge begins with self knowledge. If a law is unjust and you know it is unjust then it is wrong to let the majority stop you from reforming the law. If you think that the majority knows this law to be true and just and you accept this to be true yet know it is wrong then you are letting society corrupt you and are in the wrong, the few who are affected need to change what is unjust and unfair to better oneself and those around them and to do that one needs to look within oneself.
"Traveling is a fool's paradise."
This quote is all knowledge begins with self knowledge.
One travels to see new sights and conceive new ideas but ultimately you already knew of these ideas and sights because you already knew within yourself the truth and facts which you sought to find.To find one's self or find the truth in a different location is hopeless because what you sought you already knew.